Curse

Brian the Gladiator · Jan 28, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

[skill]magebane shot[/skill][skill]distracting shot[/skill][skill]apply poison[/skill][skill]mending touch[/skill][skill]precision shot[/skill]

NamelessBeauty · Jan 29, 2008, 12:19 AM // 00:19

You guys think too much. Be easy and fast bring THIS

[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]

How to kill? Use your pet lol idk, or bring a spear!

Stormlord Alex · Jan 29, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]

is actually really bad.
They burn CTT! on Plague Touch then proceed to Bite/Touch you as normal while you wait on that 20sec cooldown.

Cripshot is /win vs touchies.

credit · Jan 29, 2008, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Crip them then peace out.

Nodensis · Jan 29, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

how bout pindown+running skill? thats only 2 non-elite skills that keeps you at enough distance (so can be combined with a 'real' build).

for example: combine it with flatbow and conjure needling/barrage and u can do quite some damage. Or combine it with windborne speed(the conjure build) or "cant touch this"

lennymon · Jan 29, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

OK, all you folks that want to run can't touch this on your ranger's go ahead, just remember I say you are dumb if you do. It's been explained how they get past it only saving you 3-4 seconds. It's a huge waste of energy and (duh...) attribute points. So go ahead, but I won't forgive you. Degen and cripple work really well since they cant touch you (even without the stupid para skill).

Scary Raebbit · Jan 29, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by Nodensis

how bout pindown+running skill? thats only 2 non-elite skills that keeps you at enough distance (so can be combined with a 'real' build).

for example: combine it with flatbow and conjure needling/barrage and u can do quite some damage. Or combine it with windborne speed(the conjure build) or "cant touch this"

No

Pindown can be blocked
Also it can be dodged unless you are running RtW/FW.
Barrage is bad. People don't group up and Preparations I heard were good.
Windborne Speed is better for Eles, but is still not a good skill.
Can't Touch This is a waste of a skill slot, secondary, and attributes.

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 29, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

You guys think too much. Be easy and fast bring THIS

[skill]"Can't Touch This!"[/skill]

How to kill? Use your pet lol idk, or bring a spear!

Another awesome post by the person who can't interrupt 2 second casts.

Maybe you should just not recommend skills anymore..

Nodensis · Jan 29, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by Scary Raebbit

No

Pindown can be blocked
Also it can be dodged unless you are running RtW/FW.
Barrage is bad. People don't group up and Preparations I heard were good.
Windborne Speed is better for Eles, but is still not a good skill.
Can't Touch This is a waste of a skill slot, secondary, and attributes.

erhm, alternative?

I can critique my own comments if you like

. But since GW is pretty balanced and OP asked for counters...

Scary Raebbit · Jan 29, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

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Originally Posted by Nodensis

erhm, alternative?

I can critique my own comments if you like

. But since GW is pretty balanced and OP asked for counters...

The answer was already posted.

Crip Shot, Apply Poison, and maybe a lucky D-Shot.

Magebane stops one Touch, but then they get at least two more before Magebane is done recharging. Also, predicting an OoB is hard.

Crip Shot lets your team kite away from at least two/three touchers. They hopefully burn their Dodge/Haste to get you, and let some melee pressure them before Whirling/LR is back up.

Barrage removes preps. It also works best when people are bunched up. People don't usually bunch up and people don't just stand there either.

Div · Jan 29, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

[skill]Seeking arrows[/skill][skill]Oath shot[/skill][skill]Distracting shot[/skill][skill]Imagined burden[/skill][skill]Auspicious incantation[/skill][skill]conjure nightmare[/skill][skill]Dodge[/skill][skill]Zojun's haste[/skill]

Illusion magic:12
Inspiration magic:11
Expertise: 6+1+1
Marksmanship: 2

Ownage.

NamelessBeauty · Jan 29, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by ShadowsRequiem

Another awesome post by the person who can't interrupt 2 second casts.

Maybe you should just not recommend skills anymore..

You are awesome. When did Anet change touching skills = 2sec cast? LMAO and why would you have to interupt if you just use the skill and laugh at the touchers? The tittle of this thread is "How does a ranger beat a R/N." Thanks!

To "Divine: Curious divine, why do you need Oath Shot for that build? Aren't Magebane or Crip Shot work better? Just spam Crip Shot and toucher will be dead in no time.

ShadowsRequiem · Jan 30, 2008, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

You are awesome. When did Anet change touching skills = 2sec cast? LMAO and why would you have to interupt if you just use the skill and laugh at the touchers? The tittle of this thread is "How does a ranger beat a R/N." Thanks!

To "Divine: Curious divine, why do you need Oath Shot for that build? Aren't Magebane or Crip Shot work better? Just spam Crip Shot and toucher will be dead in no time.

Yes waste points in a crappy secondary for a shitty skill which stops them for all of 3 seconds wow you have really thought this one out! We COULD tell him a good build to run instead of suggesting shit....

2 second cast? just coming from the Magebane thread where you say interrupting a 2 second long cast is difficult..... which really means that you're a very poor player when it comes to rangers. Hell Touchers are very easy to interrupt because they only spam 2 skills.

Stormlord Alex · Jan 30, 2008, 01:53 PM // 13:53

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

Urgg, and did I say you only run this skill ONLY? Run it with Crip Shot / condition such as poision tip or Apply poision. It's a cheap skill against touchers with only 6 in command.

Actually, you said to run it with a pet or spear.

rofles

NamelessBeauty · Jan 30, 2008, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Actually, you said to run it with a pet or spear.

rofles

Oh and spear can not cripple ppl?

[skill]Maiming Strike[/skill] [skill]Pounce[/skill] [skill]Crippling Anthem[/skill] [skill]Wild Throw[/skill]

Use a bear to trigger [skill]Cripple Anthem[/skill]

Use [skill]Wild Throw[/skill] to get rid of stances

I'm sorry, I should give you the full build do I?

Nodensis · Jan 30, 2008, 02:50 PM // 14:50

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Originally Posted by Sha Noran

One look at the Ranger forum is usually enough to remind me why I don't look at it at all. Everyone considers guru the best forum, and here, Cripshot isn't even a 'real' build for 100% of the Rangers. Sigh.

ty for counting me as 100% of the rangers. there are others though i believe. Seen some wandering around in couple of outposts

MisterB · Jan 30, 2008, 02:59 PM // 14:59

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

Oh and spear can not cripple ppl?

[skill]Maiming Strike[/skill] [skill]Pounce[/skill] [skill]Crippling Anthem[/skill] [skill]Wild Throw[/skill]

Use a bear to trigger [skill]Cripple Anthem[/skill]

Use [skill]Wild Throw[/skill] to get rid of stances

I'm sorry, I should give you the full build do I?

Pet attacks don't trigger Anthems. Wild Throw is a nice skill, but it requires 7adrenaline per use. How will you maintain enough adrenaline to hit a Toucher who uses up to 3 blocking stances?

You'd be much better off using Wild Throw to trigger Crippling Anthem in that build. Please don't post the rest of it, by the way.

Cripshot + Apply is much better, and it only takes 2 slots on your bar. And if the toucher has Life Siphon, then Distracting Shot should be on your bar as well, unless you are bad.

iridescentfyre · Jan 30, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

Oh and spear can not cripple ppl?

Not for 4 energy on a 1-second recharge. Its also much easier to dodge a spear than a recurve bow.. especially since a toucher will likely be in a 33% speed boost stance.

NamelessBeauty · Jan 30, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Did you read it? Wild Throw + Crip Anthem?

Why do ppl come with a conclusion when they don't even read/think?

And no Crip Anthem is 4 Adreline not 4 energy. At 9-10 Command, it lasts 10-11sec. Plus you have the pet that can cripple as well. Wild throw remove stances if you need me to explain. The only problem is that if the toucher run Plauge Touch or Plauge Sending (range). They can remove the condition off themself w/o prob! But that's also the prob with Crip Ranger. That's why there's a pounce in your bar to get some kd before toucher can do much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

Pet attacks don't trigger Anthems. Wild Throw is a nice skill, but it requires 7adrenaline per use. How will you maintain enough adrenaline to hit a Toucher who uses up to 3 blocking stances?

You'd be much better off using Wild Throw to trigger Crippling Anthem in that build. Please don't post the rest of it, by the way.

Cripshot + Apply is much better, and it only takes 2 slots on your bar. And if the toucher has Life Siphon, then Distracting Shot should be on your bar as well, unless you are bad.

Oh believe it YES THEY DO! If you don't know the BEAR can DO IT? Jeez Read carefully plz! And again Plauge Sending can actually remove conditions from distance. And yes of course Crip Shot will screw R/N. But if R/N know it, they would bring D-shot and D-shot ur Crip Shot be4 you can cripple them. But it's just theory if toucher is good.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Brutal_Mauling

Read this for additional info of how Black Bear can trigger Para shouts!

To "Mokone": Speak English! I don't understand!

MisterB · Jan 30, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

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Originally Posted by NamelessBeauty

Did you read it? Wild Throw + Crip Anthem?

Why do ppl come with a conclusion when they don't even read/think?

And no Crip Anthem is 4 Adreline not 4 energy. At 9-10 Command, it lasts 10-11sec. Plus you have the pet that can cripple as well. Wild throw remove stances if you need me to explain. The only problem is that if the toucher run Plauge Touch or Plauge Sending (range). They can remove the condition off themself w/o prob! But that's also the prob with Crip Ranger. That's why there's a pounce in your bar to get some kd before toucher can do much.

Oh believe it YES THEY DO! If you don't know the BEAR can DO IT? Jeez Read carefully plz! And again Plauge Sending can actually remove conditions from distance. And yes of course Crip Shot will screw R/N. But if R/N know it, they would bring D-shot and D-shot ur Crip Shot be4 you can cripple them. But it's just theory if toucher is good.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Brutal_Mauling

Read this for additional info of how Black Bear can trigger Para shouts!

Yes, I know about the bears triggering anthems, but I can't believe you're advocating running that trash instead of Crippling Shot.

Toucher sees bear.
[skill]Throw Dirt[/skill]
Kills bear.
Your bar is disabled.
Toucher kills you.